tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1296812581212979823.post4619983455294448464..comments2024-01-08T10:16:34.686-08:00Comments on Engineer of Knowledge: The Quality of Religious Based SchoolsEngineer of Knowledgehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02179784871538454388noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1296812581212979823.post-6776853732612262122009-08-27T07:10:07.756-07:002009-08-27T07:10:07.756-07:00I went K - 12 to a local Toledo Baptist school. I ...I went K - 12 to a local Toledo Baptist school. I feel I was heavily indoctrinated, something I am still struggling against to this day, but I feel I did receive a quality education where the important disciplines are concerned.. reading/writing/math/science.. believe it or not…/history. I think what is lacking at religious based schools is the process of instilling critical thinking skills in the students. <br /><br />SteveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1296812581212979823.post-19104096218355216132009-08-25T07:15:10.856-07:002009-08-25T07:15:10.856-07:00P.S. I see an even more insidious type of schoolin...P.S. I see an even more insidious type of schooling gaining a foot hold in America.<br />Home Schooling...<br />In some cases it can be a good thing, but the majority of cases I have seen including one in my own family circle have resulted in totally inferior and incompetent instruction.<br />Home Schooling is more than often the product of religious isolationism taken to a psychotic extreme, an attempt at total control.microdothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01564820031343630871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1296812581212979823.post-30804696203841296752009-08-25T01:21:27.503-07:002009-08-25T01:21:27.503-07:00I was the product of a catholic grade school.
In r...I was the product of a catholic grade school.<br />In retrospect and in cponversation with my siblings, we all agree that the education we recieved there was sub standard, in fact, I would say that I was repressed and not allowed to excel.<br />Much of the structuring of the classes was based on class and economic status of the kids.<br /><br />I have always asserted that I was basically self educated. I don't think I ever encountered a challenging educational environment until I decided to go to Night School to attain my GED after dropping out of High School.<br />Committed teachers who were out of the loop so to speak and motivated students.<br />After that, I wanted to go to College!<br /><br />You would be astounded to see the educational system here in France and the level of work the kids sustain.<br />But education doesn't stop at the school doors.<br />One of the biggest facets of the french publishing industry is books and texts meant to be used outside of school. There is a tradition of Vacation textbooks for kids and adults alike. <br /><br />It's very interesting to see the coverage of the bacalaureates in early Summer. It's national news to see the kids reading the public posting of their grades.microdothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01564820031343630871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1296812581212979823.post-8169800251399746982009-08-23T06:07:26.434-07:002009-08-23T06:07:26.434-07:00Hello Muddy,
You bring up a very good point too. ...Hello Muddy,<br />You bring up a very good point too. The parents who pulled their children out of the Baptist Faith Based school when they were falling behind in their education…then sent them to one of two charter schools in the area. Both have recently closed leaving the children to find yet another school.<br /><br />One school had taken the state allotted money that was supposed to last for the full physical year for the education of the students, but had spent it all within five months on remodeling the building. The charter school board administrators went to the state to ask for more and they were told that they knew the money was supposed to last the whole year. Just because the administrators choose to miss-spend their budget, it did not mean the state would bail them out. The charter school closed after 6 months. Now again the parents were in panic mode to try to get their children into another school. Many, out of necessity, started home schooling programs as a group. More like baby sitting with some "Dick and Jane" thrown in. Of course, of those teaching the children in this home schooling, none had any advance education past high school but all were very religious.<br /><br />The SAD part is that these children are the true losers in this whole deal. The DANGEROUS part is that many will ONLY be able to attend Patrick Henry College making the rest of us exposed to their short comings through the government jobs they will obtain in the future.Engineer of Knowledgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02179784871538454388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1296812581212979823.post-71558887612752995012009-08-22T19:06:50.694-07:002009-08-22T19:06:50.694-07:00Excellent post, Engineer. Here in Ohio the story ...Excellent post, Engineer. Here in Ohio the story is much the same. The so-called 'community schools' [charter schools] hire incompetent persons who cannot get a job in public schools or who have no degree at all. They suck public money away from the Toledo <br />Public School system and entice kids to attend 'schools' held in warehouses, store fronts, or church basements. None score well on the state achievement tests and are given 2-3 years to 'raise' their results, but often go out of business at the end of that cycle, leaving the children to find yet another charter school to screw around in.<br /><br />Interesting story in Ohio- one of the state senators [from Toledo] pushed a bill through the Ohio legislature about 10 years ago to allow charter schools to operate in the state. Two years later, she resigned and now is one of the business officials in a charter school foundation, run by her daughter, who operates 14 charter schools. The daughter's salary is six figures and I would imagine that the mother's is too.<br /><br />Nice scam of the public trust, eh?mud_rakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04786611698569598023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1296812581212979823.post-87838728193391441762009-08-22T18:05:30.402-07:002009-08-22T18:05:30.402-07:00Very good comment Hump. I nerver knew, or gave it...Very good comment Hump. I nerver knew, or gave it a thought, about the Patrick Henry connection but I could see how this would be correct. Passing on this kind of information is what I hope this blog is about.<br /><br />I knew how important that Jefferson felt about separation of Church and State and as we see, there are still those who would overturn this.<br /><br />Good Job Hump!Engineer of Knowledgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02179784871538454388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1296812581212979823.post-65847720261264773332009-08-22T14:29:36.529-07:002009-08-22T14:29:36.529-07:00And people wonder why american kids come in behind...And people wonder why american kids come in behind european and asian kids in math and science. <br /><br />Interestingly, Patrick henry was one of those very few founding fathers who believed people should be taxed to support churchs. Fortunately, people with greater sense of freedom and understanding of the dangers of govt intermingling with religion prevailed.<br />Jefferson being his primary opponent on this.<br /><br />No wonder that college picked him as their name sake.Dromedary Humphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165566701791663057noreply@blogger.com